Vet Visit Results Jan 2025 after Beau's ER visit Dec 31, 2024

Mama says to say, you do not have to read the texts from My VET. she posted them here to keep a record of who said what and when. 

Mama's Short Version Is. Beau is fine, doing really well. Nobody Panic! I can handle that part. 

😱see what I mean. 😁

The ER visit on Dec 31, 2024, showed odd markers on Beaus tests.

Due to Beaus extreme hunger and eating any and all things he finds and drinking of excessive water, about 9 cups a day, The vet wants to do tests for Cushing's Disease, Very EXPENSIVE tests, and if Cushing's disease found, expensive, visits, drugs with bad side effects and many visits to vet.  

We decided to refuse the tests, since we do not intend to take the drugs and since we would not be treating it even if he does have it.

We are more quality of life, both ours and Beaus, as all 3 of us are in our 80's and all three with health issues. 

We are going to try the holistic treatment using natural drugs that are used for atypical Cushing's. We have started Beau on Melatonin 3gms twice daily and HMR Lignans 40grms and see what happens.

Below is just copy of my text/emails with the vet. as a way to document as we go.

Skip it read it, and leave us a comment and say prayers and send well wishes that this will work for Beau and for us..

I spend my days sad, happy, sad, happy. up and down the roller coaster goes. Thank all of you for your sweet, kind and supportive comments on yesterday's post. Jackies daughter read and commented and was so pleased with the post. Her name is C.C. not really, its Carleena, but I did not even know that until yesterday. I did have fun waving my hand at my cell phone to take these photos yesterday. ME on 2/14/2025

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Per instructions from the ER Veterinarian visit on Dec 31, 2025, we took Beau to get his urine checked to our vet on Jan 9th. A simple urine sample, and when I made the appt I asked if they could get his sample, because I could not and look at his ear because he has been flapping them a lot. He gave ear meds, checked urine and the charge was 265.00. 

 I received the below text, Jan 15. a review of the urine test.

Sandra and Robert, Beau's urinalysis has been returned and reviewed and, we've got two issues that are a bit perplexing. Firstly, he has some bacteria in his urine -- they are clearly present but one might argue that their numbers are low. And, low numbers in urine samples -- especially those collected by natural voiding -- may only represent contamination. My question to you: is Beau having any sort of urinary issues? If not, I might recommend that we do nothing and reassess his urine (again) in 2-4 weeks. If so, I'll need to dispense additional antibiotics -- different of course. The second concern pertains to his urine's concentration: it's extremely thin and that is not a normal process. Thin urine suggests something is affecting him or his body or his kidneys. At the ER, his urine was thinner; but, now, it's thin. My second question to you: is Beau drinking a lot of water? Let me know the answer to those two questions and I'll give you my perception of the situation. The bigger question in my mind: does any of this have anything to do why Beau suddenly has an interest in eating fecal material? Again, let me know; thank you, Dr. Doyens

I answered that he does drink a lot of water, and no problems urinating.

On Jan 22, 2025, I received the email below one week after the text. I even called twice.

Sandra and Robert,

I've been ruminating on the issues and signs that we've gathered form Beau over the past few months and I've concluded that he may, in fact, have atypical Cushings disease.  The increased water consumption and increased appetite -- inclusive of fecal material — are classic for such (as they are for normal Cushings).  But, if one has "normal" Cushings, there are several indicators in one's blood that reveal such; and we've not seen those.  So, he's likely not "normal" Cushings (although, one doesn't know until one tests and proves such).  And, if he has atypical Cushings, then, that's an easy fix using a couple of natural products — simple, safe and economical. 

My recommendation for Beau is as follows: 1) set up date and time to pursue testing for Cushings disease.  When it comes back: 1) if positive, we treat for Cushings.  2) if negative, we treat for atypical Cushing.  

Let me know your thoughts.

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 10:53 AM David Doyens, DVM <manateevetclinic@live.com> wrote:

Sandra,

I have ordered the necessary products to begin treating Beau for atypical Cushings.  The products used are natural remedies that can have a profound impact on the symptoms we've seen with Beau.

They are safe, simple and relatively economical.  I'll let you know when they arrive and we can get the ball rolling.

Hope that helps.

Dr. Doyens

From: Sandra Hangey <nevermindsandra@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2025 1:02 PM
To: David Doyens, DVM <manateevetclinic@live.com>
Subject: Re: Beau

 

Before you order, I have many questions, and also hat may be relatively affordable to you might not be to us.

also do the products require 

office visits to monitor results, 

Is there more testing? before and during use

or is is something that he can just take

like the probiotics he is taking. 

He is now on gabapentin, glandex, cosequin and proviable-dc. 

What will happen if we do not treat? 

thank you, 

Vets Answer	Tue, Feb 11, 8:38 PM (18 hours ago)
to me

No, Sandra, there is no testing or office visits or anything.  I dispense a natural product (2, actually) that has been shown to be effective in managing Atypical Cushings and you look for a response to therapy.

The one product is $33 for 90 tablets that will last 3 months (= $11/month); the second product is about $23 for 60 tablets and will last 2 months (= $11/month).

I have them in stock and can dole them out at any point.

If you don't treat, in most cases, the Atypical Cushings tends to become regular Cushings.  But, that could be months/years away.

Let me know.

Dr. Doyens